Monday, March 29, 2010

Tuesday, March 30th

Part 1. OKAY, I AM GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS IN CAPITAL LETTERS - READ, READ READ THE QUESTION BELOW CAREFULLY!!!!! Rethinking Roanoke - make a comment about the reading. After reading the summary of Lee Miller's book Rethinking Roanoke, what does the author believe caused the disappearance of the Lost Roanoke Colonists? Back up what you say with a few supporting statements! What is your proof!? Leave a comment - don't worry I will get it. WRITE THE COMMENT BELOW WHERE IT SAYS COMMENTS!!! I proofread them before publishing.

Part 2. Creating America Textbook!Read pages 85-86 in the history book. Identify what these people have to do with the Roanoke colonies. What part do they play? You are going to write a one word description are you? Hopefully you are learning what you really need to do:
John White
Virginia Dare
Richard Hakluyt
Walter Raleigh
Queen Elizabeth I

Why did the Roanoke colonies fail?
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What happened to the "Lost" colonists? and who are the Lumbee?

60 comments:

  1. Miller believes that they were sabotaged by Walsingham. Walsingham was a secratary of state. He had good reasons to want him to fail. He also brought dow Mary queen of Scots in a meticulous and secretive plot.

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    Sean

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  2. Michael
    Lee Miller believes that the people of Roanoke weren't lost but they were sabotaged. A man named Sir Francis Walsingham the Secretary of State to Queen Elizabeth I. He wanted them to either starve,be killed by the Indians, or be raided by spanish.

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  3. she belives that the people at Roanoke were sabotage by Sir Francis Walsingham, because raleigh had a patent to settle in the new world, something walingham wanted. His history has been documented quite well. She also thought that the people that survive live with the native people. There was an account of a man from jamestown said that he saw a white skinned boy in natives cloths.

    Peter Barney

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  4. The author believes that Walsingham sabotaged Roanoke to discredit Raleigh. She thinks its him because he was clever and regularly pulled off though-out schemes. It is documented that he pulled off painstakingly scemes.

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  5. Walsingham spied on the settlers and made sure that John White could not get back to the colonies for a long time.

    The natives have light hair and fare skin.

    -Claire S.

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  6. miller thought that roanoke was sabatoged by sir francis walsingham. He has done other things like this before. Robert

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  7. The author believes that the colonists went to North Carolina instead of Chesapeake Bay, just to enter into war zone between two conflicting Indian nations. Some were probably killed, and some might had fled to Croatoan, a nearby Indian settlement. Most though were captured and were made slaves. Spread across Carolina by the way of an Indian trading network.
    To prove this fact, look at the story on page one, paragraph four, line five, beginning at the word Desperate, down to the second to last sentence, the last word as network.

    ~Sveta

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  8. She believed that the roanoke colonists were SABOTAGED. She said that sir francis walshingham stranded the colonists on roanoke hoping that they would either starve, die at the hands of the indians, or be raided by the spanish who had heard about them.

    Danny W.

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  9. Miller belives that once White left, and was gone for a few years, teh colonists were desperate and needed new recources. She thought that they traveled up the Chesapeake Bay and dismantles their whole fort and took everything with them. They only left 2 clue howeer, the word Croatan, and the letters CRO. She also believed that they were waiting for White to com back with the recources that he left to get from England which they needed to survive, they wandered in to an Indian settlement. The Indians may have killed some of them, but some of them may have Croatan, or disperesed throughout a trading route as slaves. I agree with Miller because these are very real reasons to leave their settlement, and they may have encountered the misfortune of running into the Indians, who may have been savage. I also think, that they may have been completely slaughtered by the Indians and had been wiped out completely.

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  10. The author said that the reason she thought the Roanoke Colony disappeared because it was sabotaged. She says that Fernandez wanted to get back at Sir Walter Raleigh and maybe sabotaged the colony because it was Raleigh's colony. -Aelin Hill

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  11. He believes that there were some killed at the hand of Indians but however there were many that survived but never to be rescued. Sir Francis Walsingham stranded them there hoping they would starve, be killed by Indians or raided by the Spanish.

    Will Rosean

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  12. On page 1 paragraph 3 it states "Roanoke wasn't lost.......... it was sabotaged. Further more (she believes)that while some of the colonists did die at the hands of the indians, many survived never to be rescued." Later in the article it states in a record by George Percy, that a blond haired savage boy was found in the forest. Was he a decentant of a survivor never to be found? Also found by later settlage was bones of a man, one of a group of fifteen. Could that fate had been bistowed amoung the settlers? Also on a tree were the letters "CRO" and on a palisade the word "croatoan". Could the town had fled to a place named that? That is just some of the proof backing up this persons theory.

    Laura M 1st period

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  13. she believed that they were either killed when the arrived in the middle of a conflict between Indian nations. they also could have been taken as slaves in an Indian trading network.that would be why no evidence of settlement on Chesapeake has been found.

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  14. Lee Miller believes that the Roanoke colonists dissapeared because Sir Francis Walsingham wanted to ruin Raleigh, so he sabotaged Roanoke, to discredit Raleigh.
    One thing that can prove this is that the pilot, Simon Fernandez, kept doing things to make the colonists to late for planting season. So when they got to Roanoke, it was to late to plant anything, so Fernandez said he would just leave them on Roanoke instead of taking them to Raleigh, because they could not plant anything. Also, he told two of the ships to abandon the third ship that had essential supplies and colonists on it. Why would he do this? Becuas Sir Francis Walsinghsm saved him from being hanged for being a pirate, so he did this for Walsingham. Another thing that can help support the idea that Walsingham did clever operations like this regularly.-Ellie

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  15. She believes they were taken by the croatan people. John White found the word croatan carved in a palisade. He also found a "cro" carved into a tree.



    Henry W. :)

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  16. The author believes that the Colonial officers let some people die instead of rescuing them. Others were killed by the natives.

    -Charlie Burton

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  17. She believes that they disappeared by getting taken over by the Powhatan tribe and that they were sold into slavery or were killed, but this happened because they were apparently sabotaged by Sir Francis Walsingham. She believes that they were sabotaged because the leader of the expedition told the other ship to leave a third ship behind, and let out the settlers after planting season.

    Andrew Buchanan

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  18. Her point of veiw makes alot of sense. IT just doesn't make sense for hundreds of people to just dissapear.

    Cal

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  19. LT

    The author thinks that the colony disappeared because people purposely tried to sabotage the colony. It shows the Simon Fenandez who was a great ship's pilot screwed up and wasted many weeks before getting to Roanoke so that they didn't have time to plant crops. The author believes that Walsingham was also secretly trying to sabotage the colony because of all of the different things that he's been a part of like the killing of Mary Queen of Scots. Lastly she believes they scattered and became slaves when they were spread out. The proof for this is the different places like Jamestown that supposedly had symbols like crosses, words, and similar looking people and slaves that were white.

    ~Lindsay Teisl

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  20. what does the author believe caused the disappearance of the Lost Roanoke Colonists?

    She believes that it was America's oldest murder mystery. It states that the colonists vanished and the only clues they found were the word "croatoan" craved in a plaisade and the letters "CRO" carved into a tree. She says that this is where American History began!

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  21. Lee miller thinks that Sir Francis Walsingham got simon fernandez to purposely screw up the roanoke colony. Her proof lies in that walsingham was the mastermind for many other conspiracies that worked marvelously that no one else in the world could pull off. So if walsingham did all the other stuff that how could he not have done this knowing his hate for white and Raleigh.

    Willy B.

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  22. The author believes Roanoke was sabotaged. Not by the Native Americans, but by Sir Francis Walsingham. He was a powerful member of the royal court (for England), and was a strong believer in destroying the Spanish. Roanoke would be the perfect spot to terrorize Spanish merchant ships, making it something that Walsingham would love to have. Sadly, since Raleigh got the land, Walsingham would have no chance to get it. So, why not sabotage Roanoke? However, Walsingham was smart...he used a man named Simon Fernandez, John White's pilot, to do his dirty work. He manipulated Fernandez by saving him from being hanged. In Walsingham's control, Fernandez told two of the three ships to abandon the main ship. By the time the ships got back (they had the plants, food, etc.), it was mid July; too late for croping. As for the lost colonists, they have never been found. Rescue mission after mission failed miserably.

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  23. The author believes that the colony was sabotaged. She believes that a man named Sir Francis Walsingham wanted this colony to fail. He did this because he was mad at a man named Raleigh who the queen had given permission to settle all the land that he could. This made him very unhappy. For example the captain of White ships ordered 2 ships to leave behind the 3rd for no reason. Why would he want to do this? This ship had essential supplies that the colonist would need to survive. The captain also seemed to stall the ships when every possible. People know that Walsingham was connected to many events that are similar to this so it is possible that he would have done something like this.
    ~Julia Veitinger~

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  24. The author (Lee Miller) believes that some of the English colonists were killed, some went to the Indian settlement of Croatoan, and some were enslaved by Indians. The colonists accidentally sailed west, rather than north, on the Chesapeake Bay, and into North Carolina. This is why John White couldn't find any evidence of settlement. Croatoan (or Cro) were carved into two places, one being a tree. Lee Miller thought that this is what happened to the English colonists. All of this evidence is in the fourth paragraph on the first page.
    SL

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  25. The Author states that Lee Miller thinks that Roanoke was sabotaged.
    -They couldn't just disappear and if they were sabotaged, the natives would have destroyed everything and that is probably why non human remains were found.
    -If natives attacked, they probably would have taken hostages or babies to train and raise for themselves. A man named George Percy saw a "native" that had blond hair and white skin which was rare for native Americans.




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  26. There have been many theories about why the colonie on Roanoke island dissapeared, from horrible storms to a killer disease. Lee Miller believed very strongly that Sir Francis Walsingham sabatoged the colonists. He worked for the queen. There is no proof that he sabbotaged the colonists, only that Sir Francis stopped a pirate named Simon Fernandez from being hangged. Simon made the trip a lot longer than it was supposed to be so that the colonists got to Roanoke at the wrong time of the year for growing. The pirate told the other two ships to leave behind the third ship. On that third ship there were things that they needed to survive and other colonists. Everything went wrong after John White left. If he hadn't of left the island none of this would have happend. This theory is much easier to believe than the other theories. Some people like the disapearance to be called a mystery but I believe that Lee Miller is right.
    - Madeline Cohen

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  27. Although no one really knows what happened it states on pg.86 that the lost colonist Might of mingled with the neighboring Native Americans. An other belive that they moved to Chesapeak Bay and werre killed by Natives Americans defending their land.
    RL

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  28. The author beleives that the colonies were sabotaged, although some of them were killed at the hands of indians, that is not the only beleif.

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  29. The author believes that what happened to the Lost Roanoke Colonists is that Walsingham had sabotaged Roanoke to discredit Raleigh. Although there are no letters that state they had did it, the pieces of alleged sabotage fit together with precision. Some of the colonists died at the hands of the indians, and some survived but were never rescued.
    John White-Traveled with first english expedition to Koanoke.
    Virginia Dare-First Christian born in Virginia.
    Richard Hakluyt-English geographer who urged England to start a colony.
    Walter Raleigh-Soldier, statesman, and adventurer who served under Queen Elizabeth I.
    Queen Elizabeth I-Gave Walter Raleigh permission to sponser the colony at Roanoke.
    The Roanoke colonists failed because...
    1. The colonists were being dumped where White knew they would have difficulty sustaining a community of 117.
    2. Walsingham had motive to ruin Raleigh because of their strategy against Spain.
    3. Fernandez was a puzzling figure, trying to make life hard for Roanoke.

    Some of the Lumbee people think they are descendants of lost colonists of Koanokee.

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  30. The author believes the colonists were purposefully stranded on Roanoke in hopes of them dying because a group created by Francis Walsingham was trying to defeat Raleigh, a boy entitled to a patent to all the land he could settle in the New World. Apparently, the group's plan worked because the colonists came into conflict between indian nations. Lee Miller states herself that some were likely killed, some went to friendly Indian settlements, and most were likely captured as slaves, being sold all through Carolina. Lee Miller also stated that the killing, fleeing and selling of the slaves was probably why no evidence of a settlement has been found.
    -Siara

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  31. Lee Miller believes that a man named Sir Frances Walsinham sabotaged the colonists. This all happened because he stops a pirate named Simon Fernandes from being hanged. While boats were being taken to Roanoke the pirate purposley delayed them. He also told the captain of the third ship to leave it behind because it carried all of the valuable and useful items that without it the families traveling to Roanoke wouldn't survive without. So that is why she thinks they didn't survive in Roanoke!

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  32. The author believes that the colonists of Roanoke vanished, becuase the colony was sabatoged. She believes that Sir Francis Walshingham wanted to bring Raleigh down. So instead of moving up to Chesapeake Bay, the colonists stayed in what is now North Carolina waiting for John White's return.

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  33. After reading the Roanoke article I think that the author believed that Indians caused the disappearance of the colonist.She said that they where sabotaged by the Indians and cause them to leave.Some she thinks were killed and some managed to get away.There is proof because they didn't find and bodies which proves that some of the people must have gotten away and maybe some killed.Also since the Indians didn't exactly like the English there was no reason for them( in their point of view) not to attack the English.

    Anna P.

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  34. The mystery of Roanoke is actually very interesting. Its amazing how many theories can be made over one topic. The author believed that many things could have happened to the lost settlers. Most believe that they we killed by Natives. It could also be two people who could have possibly wanted to destroy Raleigh, Fernandez and Walsingham. Because of their enmity towards Raleigh they might have been resposible for kiddnapping the setlers. Exept for Fernandez, he was thought to be a secret spy type of thing from Spain. Other myths have also been told that might be true or false. George Percy recorded that he had seen a white boy with blond hair and blue eyes at about the age of ten, he was said to look nothing like a native, but like themselves. Captain John Smith had also written that he saw trees with Roman writing and crosses carved into the wood. White had told the settlers that this was a sign for distress. People believe that thoose were their carvings. But then again, there just myths...or are they?

    ~ ALEENA N.

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  35. Lee Miller, the author, believed that Sir Francis Walsingham sabotaged Roanoke to damage the reputation of Sir Walter Raleigh. Also she believes that Roanoke was not lost but sabotaged and that some of the colonist died from the Indian (not the Powhatan Indians). She thinks that Walsingham sabotaged Roanoke because she studied earlier operations, which were documented; like when Walsingham “took 18 year to bring down Mary Queen of Scots”. Also a long letter that John White wrote and it explained what had happened on Roanoke and what happened on the three shiploads of colonist. Simon Fernandez, White’s pilot, ordered two of the ships to abandon the third ship on the cost of Portugal. They all eventually got to Roanoke Island, but couldn’t get fresh water and provisions or salt.

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  36. The author believed that they were abandoned and were left to die. When Raleigh came back it was already three years. Some one had to have planed this. Sir francis Walsingham masterminded a group to abandon them on a island.

    DAniel

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  37. Miller thought the cause of the dissapearing colonists was that walsingham "sabotaged" the island of Roanoke. She thinks this because it was recorded that Walsingham did other vast, meticulous, painstakingly thought-out-schemes. So what would stop him from doing another? Also it sayed that Walsingham nedded the island for military reasons against Spain. Of course he thought military is more important than a colony. The only way to clear it? Scare the settlers out. Near the ending of this article it states that George Percy saw a savage white boy. Now I know that Indians cant produce a white child. Especially with blonde hair. In conclusion the settlers were chased away all the way to Chesapeake bay.
    - Ryan Potokar

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  38. He believes that Simon Fernandez tried to sabotage the trip to Roanoke. He was the pilot and wasted five days just going down the coast and did not get them there till mid-July so they did not have much time to plant many crops. But why would he sabotage something he invested in? Maybe out of dislike and revenge of someone. He also thought the people moved up to Chesapeake Bay and mingled with Native Americans because they had seen people of there facial structure but were not able to catch them and interview them.

    -Seamus K

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  39. Lee Miller, the author, thinks that the colonists, awaiting John White's return with additional supplies, ran into a fight between Indian nations. She thinks that some were killed, and most of the others were taken away as slaves. They weren't really "lost", only not able to be found. Some explorers found crosses and Roman letters carved into trees. Right before John White left, the colonists agreed that a cross was a sign of distress. Even thought seven rescue missions have been organized, none of the colonists were ever found. But in 1607, 105 men came to Chesapeake Bay and talked with a man named George Percy who claimed he saw a boy about ten years old who had very white skin, blonde hair, and wore cloths just like his.

    ~Linnea

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  40. Miller believes some of them were killed when they were on the move to North Carolina but the local Indians. And that rest of them were held captive and then turned in to slaves and then some dispersed all around North Carolina.

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  41. The author belives that Sir Francis Walsingham sabotaged the colony of roanoke. He convinced Queen Elizabeth the first to not let john white go back to roanoke and help the settlers. Simon Fernandez also slowed white down. ~Phillip Griffith

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  42. She believed it was sabotaged by Sir Francis Walsingham. They believe that the people either got killed but the natives, some went to friendly natives, but most were enslaved and trade among the trade routes.

    Caroline R.

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  43. I thought it was unbelievable and sad that they would do such a thing to their own people. The group waned to have the colonists die so that Sir Walter Raleigh wouldn't be able to use the royal patent he had gotten from the queen for land. There most likely were survivors, but they quit looking for them because it was dangerous and there hadn't been any results.

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  44. She believed that Sir Francis Walsingham sabotaged the Ronoake people. He had Simon Fernandez, who was the pilot of the ships, abandon one ship that was carrying supplies, didn't pick up the necessary supplies from the Caribbean, and got them there too plant to plant crops (July). He did this because Sir Francis Walsingham saved him from being hung and he was debt to Walsingham for that.

    Joey Pennington

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  45. Kate m’s list of Roanoke girl stuff
    1.She thinks it’s more evil than romantic as the other stories make it seem.

    2.She says that is wasn’t actually lost

    3.That some of the people died from Indians and some didn’t and many survived but were never rescued

    4.And the colonists knew they were alive but didn’t care to save them

    5.So they sent them there like exiling

    6.They used them kind of like bait for Spanish

    7.They people were taken as slaves

    8.Ferandez is with the Spanish

    9.miller might want Raleigh to fail?

    10.Her proof come from first hand written accounts

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  46. The author believes that the disappearence of the Roanoke people was caused by Sir Francis Walsingham. He did not like Raleigh because he wanted to settle in North America but couldnt because of bankruptcy but Raleigh could. Also he did many of these type of schemes such as bringing down Mary Queen of Scots. He caused sabatoge.

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  47. She thinks that Walsingham tried to destroy Raleigh's attempt at a colony because Walsingham wanted Roanoke for himself for his strategy against Spain. And Rastell used the same strategy as Walsingham...which she found evidence in a court trial.

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  48. The author thinks that Sir Francis Walsingham purposely sabotaged the people at Roanoke. Miller thinks this because he was documented of doing many bad things, such as bringing down Mary Queen of Scots. He was the only person who regularly did those kinds of things back then. Plus, he was the person who stranded all of them there. So, Lee Miller thinks that Sir Francis Walsingham was the cause of the lost Roanoke colonists.

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  49. The author is saying that the best way to keep the powhatans on the defensive side was to continually say the lost colonists were slaughtered by them,the enemy. The author believes the roanoke people were not lost, but were sabotaged. She believes some colonists died from the killing of indians but that many were just never rescued. The author believes that if the queen really wanted to find her people she would have sent in more forces to find them.The roanoke Island was very small,being 12 miles long and 3 miles wide. The author leads me to believe that the queen used the disappearance as an excuse for her political benefit against what England considered to be.

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  50. Sam Schlesinger

    The author believes that Sir Francis Walsingham sabotaged Roanoke to make Sir Walter Raleigh fail because Walsingham was jealous. Walsingham was facing bankruptcy, but Raleigh had the patent to settle North America. Also, Walsingham had an elaborate plan against Spain, and Roanoke would be an excellent base for English raiders to steal from the Spanish ships. Lastly, Walsingham was a powerful member of the English royal court, yet Raleigh got the Queen to listen to him even though he was just a courtier. Walsingham had all the reason to sabotage Roanoke so he could make Raleigh look bad.

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  51. The author believes that the "Lost Colonists" fort was sabatoged. She thinks that Sir Francis Walsingham sabotaged them because he was holding a grudge aganinst Sir Walter Raleigh. She says that Walsingham was angry at Raleigh because Raleigh was new and had new ideas and that Queen Elizabeth was listening to him insted of Walsingham. Also, she says that Walsingham was the only man in that time who regularly pulled off these very well planned schemes.

    ~Kate R

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  52. The author of this believes the people of Roanoke were sabotaged by Sir Francis Walsingham. It took him many years to take down the Queen of Scots. Miller believes he was the only one of many to design such elaborate schemes and meticulous plans. In addition she believes that the Roanoke were not lost. She says that some were killed by Indians. Many colonists survived but few were rescued.

    Adam M.

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  53. The author believes that there may have been a spanish saboture. They wanted to stop the English from coming in.
    Ed Foote

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  54. The author thinks that willingham came and sabothadged the colonists. They left nothing behind them and no letters. Also I think that he led them inland to be killed and not towards croatan.

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  55. She believes that Sir Francis Walshingham sabotaged the colonists. She thinks that he had a lot of power from being secretary of state. She believes that he freed a pirate from being hung and so the pirate owed him and sabotaged the colonists.

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  56. I thought that the reading was very interesting. Lee Miller is obviously a fantastic anthropologist. She really dug deep trying to uncover the lost stories of Roanoke, putting an end to the old lies and tales. Miller believes that Roanoke was overcome by sabotage. She also believes that Sir Francis Walsingham was the cause of the sabotage. Walsingham was Queen Elizabeth I's secretary of state as well as her pet. Then, a young smart man came into the picture. That man was Sir Walter Raleigh who later became the founder of Roanoke. Elizabeth loved him so much that Walsingham became afraid that he would steal his job. Walsingham was overcome by jealousy towards Raleigh and sabotaged Roanoke. Now, Walsingham was very cunning and after reading this article, it makes perfect sense that he would be the one to sabotage the colony. Walsingham trapped the colonists on Roanoke without supplies or food. He then had most of them enslaved by natives, but he didn't do it all alone. Walsingham was helped by Simon Fernandez, a pirate who was almost hung by the queen but saved by Walsingham. Walsingham basically used Fernandez so that he would have to give a favor back to Walsingham. I think this article is quite beneficial towards everyone because its one story that is not a lie. All of the sources are primary and jampacked with true facts from Roanoke. In a nutshell, i think that the reading was factual and beneficial towards everyone.
    ~Abby 2nd Period

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  57. The author believes that Walsingham sabotaged Raleigh. But also thinks that the reason they left was because they arrived in mid-July, too late to plant fields. And all the other missions to bring supplies were sabotaged to get there late. The proof of this is in her book that she researched.

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  58. Miller believes that the one guy sabotaged the Roanoke by dropping them off at the wrong place. Then, by natives, they were attacked and partially killed. The ones who survived disappeared into the wilderness...

    Lucy

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  59. The author thinks that Roanoke was sabotoged by Walsingham. He was the secratary of state and had a lot of power. The author also states that the people had not been mearly lost but mostly killed or enslaved by the Natives. The captain of the ship was also in dept to Walsinigham because he saved his life before.

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  60. The author believes that the colony Roanoke was sabotaged. They were most likely killed by indians nearby and the survivors were never seen again. The person who planned this was most likely Sir Francis Walsingham, who wanted Sir Walter Raleigh to lose some of his power.

    -Elyse M.

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